This is really a memo to self on Catholic Safeguarding because I’ve been seeing them as one organisation whereas in fact – especially from a survivor’s point of view – they are TWO very distinct bodies with distinct points of view.
So I thought I’d make it clear for others who may well be facing similar difficulties understanding them and who to get in touch with.
It is confusing but that may just me! I’m not used to the internal workings of large organisations and if and where they overlap. If you’ve worked for some big company like Unilever or a government ministry this is probably a walk in the park!
The Rev Des Bill, chair of the Catholic Church’s Safeguarding Commission for Orders in Education (SCOE)
Des is the safeguarding lead person for the De La Salles and other Orders connected with education. So he is directly involved with the De La Salles.
It’s my understanding that Des Bill initiated the suspension of Brother Laurence and commissioned an investigation into the allegations, commissioning Jo Norman to look into them. For all this he is to be commended.
He also passed on my allegations about the DLS and the Knights to Operation Hydrant which I need to ask him about shortly.
Because the way it was done did not follow the usual approved procedure, according to my own communication with Hydrant.
Although these are all valuable steps, Des appears to be negative, to put it gently, to recent progress in bringing the DLS to book. Thus, as I’ve exampled, he is partisan towards the DLS when they have distanced themselves from their crimes and seems to be involved with the DLS public apology fiasco which was not public and was not much of an apology.
And he doesn’t seem to be responding to the most recent concerns I’ve raised.
Whilst I am not experienced in dealing with large organizations, I have considerable experience in how to deal with people who are not being helpful.
Catholic Safeguarding Standards Agency (CSSA). Colette Limbrick is the CEO.
I think the CSSA’s functions overlap with the SCOE and I guess I will find out more about how that works as things develop.
They are certainly supportive and I value that.
Nazir Afzal is the chair of the CSSA, but I understand it’s not an everyday role. Whereas I think chair is a full time post for Des Bill.
Nazir, of course, is well known and a fellow survivor thoroughly recommends his book The Prosecutor.
How Nazir responds to survivors we have yet to see. But we survivors are most definitely moving forward in his direction, too.
I will try to make everything much clearer in the future when I refer to ‘Catholic Safeguarding’.