According to the latest Vatican information it now seems possible that the Knights of St Columba Ipswich could be investigated. Because I believe all Knights are recognised by the Holy See.
Here’s the link:, dated March 25 this year:
The relevant text from it is as follows:
Pope Francis promulgates revised ‘Vos estis’ – Here’s what changed
The revised policy makes permanent the norms introduced experimentally by Pope Francis in 2019, while broadening the scope of the law to include investigations of lay leaders in international associations of the faithful.
One significant change to the text of Vos estis lux mundi is the inclusion of lay leaders of international associations recognized by the Holy See, who might now be investigated either for perpetrating abuse themselves, or for failing to investigate or address allegations of abuse or misconduct made in the context of their communities.
The move was likely influenced by revelations which emerged in recent years concerning the spiritual and sexual abuse of prominent Catholic layman Jean Vanier, founder of the international L’Arche community, who died in 2019. While the new norms would not have actually impacted the allegations against Vanier himself, because L’Arche is not recognized as an association by the Holy See, it would apply to other founders of international apostolates, movements, or spiritual associations accused of abuse.
The revised text of Vos estis lux mundi clarifies that investigations of lay leaders will be undertaken under the aegis of the Dicastery for Laity, Family, and Life, which is given legal competence to oversee them.
The text does not make clear how lay leaders might be punished for sexual abuse if the allegations arise after their terms have expired. While clerics can face the penalty of laicization, it is not clear what meaningful sanction might be imposed on a layperson.
Pat’s comment on the above:
Surely the obvious sanction for criminal abuse or concealing or ignoring criminal abuse is court action and penalties according to the law of the land? Or is this another case where Canon Law takes priority?
Dicastery for Laity, Family, and Life ? Another Safeguarding organization?
It does add to the current lack of clarity about Safeguarding which I barely understand, and I’m sure is very confusing to others.
Perhaps this Dicastery is not relevant, but it sounds tailor-made to fill a current gap in Safeguarding.
http://www.laityfamilylife.va/content/laityfamilylife/en.htm
Is it relevant for the UK?
Or does Laity abuse fall under the aegis of the CSSA or the RLSS ? The RLSS because Laity was abusing in collusion with a religious order as I’ve exampled in so many past posts
Currently neither the CSSA or the RLSS (and their predecessor the SCOE) have taken responsibility for looking at these crimes of the Laity which I’ve told them fall within or overlap both their remits
Perhaps the RLSS and the CSSA can explain or pass on my past concerns to the Dicastery.
I would also point out to the Dicastery that the CSSA did not respond to my concerns about Solidarities which may also fall within their Laity remit.
Perhaps the CSSA will pass on my previous post on that subject
For due diligence, the RLSS, the CSSA and the Dicastery have now been informed via a copy of this post
And I would repeat for the Dicastery the summary of my numerous past posts – namely:
The Knights of St Columba Ipswich Province were involved in serious ‘historic’ organised child sex abuse crimes. That female Catholic Laity were also involved. And the De La Salles were in collusion with the Knights. That there are current concerns about the Knights not having DBS checks and that the Colchester Knights ensured that recent serious sexual abuse offences by one of their Knights did not reach the national media. It’s possible Colchester children may still be at risk as there appears to have been no audit after the trial and guilty verdict of the Knight abuser.
All this I’ve gone into in exhaustive detail in past posts.
The Knights are aware of my allegations which can be found on endless Google posts, but they have not officially responded.
Neither have the RLSS or the CSSA.
Pat Mills 
I’ve got the provisional go ahead for a video interview with RLSS so those are the kind of questions I’ll be asking. After all there are Scottish DLS approved schools – the same could be said that they’re working for the Home Office. But Scottish Survivors have received payment from the DLS. Whether I get through everything in the first interview remains to be seen. I doubt it. By the way, the Forum I’m talking about is like a Facebook Forum with written questions and responses. But will include video interviews – one on one. Not like that CSSA disaster with Nazir – although they may have some group in mind there, too.As for Zollner – he’s meant to be part of a Vatican Safeguarding Team, so just feeling sympathy for you is meaningless when he actually is part of a team that has some power.
The DE la Salle know about my alagations that happened at St GILBERT’S the RSSL said that they would helpe waist of time still no justice no response from the De La SALLE refusing any responsibility saying that they were just employees working for the home office saying take it up with them the RSSL have had meetings with them but haven’t tolde anything so I’ve ask them for the information they had on me they promised me that I will receive it before the six of April I’ve also told them over a month ago that I want nothing to do with them so back to the drawing board